On December 14th, 2017 the American Cinematheque at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica, CA hosted a screening of “Get Out”, with a post-film Q&A with writer-director Jordan Peele and moderated by Larry Wilmore . The event was co-presented by the Writers Guild of America West as part of the “Groundbreakers screening series.” *The following will contain extensive spoilers about the film, including the ending.*
Poster by Francesco Francavilla
This was the second time I’d screened “Get Out” at the cinema, and it was my third viewing over all. It was already in my top ten favorite films of 2017 before this viewing, but it might have now cemented a place in my top five. What really struck me was how the movie still held me under its spell, despite already knowing what was to come. When Catherine Keener‘s Missy Armitage first places Chris Washington, played flawlessly by Daniel Kaluuya, in “The Sunken Place” I still felt the panic for the character that I did the first time. When Chris tries to leave the Armitage home, my pulse was still racing and heart pounding while Allison Williams‘ Rose Armitage toys with him about finding the car keys. Many films with “twists” tend not to hold my attention on repeated viewings because the entire film is seemingly built around that one moment. My reactions proved to me “Get Out” is much more than its reveal of what the Armitages, and their cult like “secret society”, are up to with The Coagula Procedure. It’s not only enjoyable upon repeated viewings, but it might be even better.
After the screening Larry Wilmore introduced Jordan Peele for a roughly hour long talk about the film, from its conception, to the writing process, casting, and Jordan’s experiences filming his first feature. Jordan was candid about everything that went into creating the finished film, and what follows are some highlights of that conversation.
- The original spark leading to “Get Out” came from a dream Jordan had. He was walking through a bank lobby when suddenly the sound dropped out. When he turned around everyone in the lobby was starring directly at him in silence. Jordan called this a “fear of unwanted attention”, and when “Get Out” evolved into a horror movie about race he tied this fear to his experiences as “the only black guy at a party.”
- Jordan worked on the outline of the film for five years before pitching and selling the idea. Even though little had been written down, he had the entire film in his head. Some of the biggest hurdles with writing the script came from getting, and keeping, the correct tone. He didn’t want to veer into a Wayans brothers parody, but Jordan also didn’t want it to tread into “Funny Games” territory, which he deemed “too dark, and unpleasant.”
- He summed up the vibe he was going for as exploring the premise of “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?” with the tone of “The Stepford Wives” and the meta-commentary on the horror genre of “Scream.”
- While the film’s target audience was African-Americans, Jordan didn’t want to alienate the rest of his audience. So, he worked to approach showing that point of view in a way that would promote empathy by drawing everyone into having “the black experience” while watching the movie. This led to Larry Wilmore congratulating us all on being “honorary black people for the last ninety minutes.”
- Jordan listed Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, and Quentin Tarantino among his “director inspirations” for “Get Out.” He went on to talk about how he always believed the best movie ever would be from combining Spielberg and Kubrick, and that he considers Tarantino to be one of the most influential directors of his generation.
- “The Sunken Place” was conceived as a representation of oppression. In his mind this was a stand in for systematic racism, the true monster in “Get Out”, as well as the prison industrial complex, lack of representation in the film industry, and lack of representation in the horror genre.
- Jordan was careful to allow the film to build tension, with strategically placed releases. To him the most effective horror films build terror throughout, and the ones that don’t tend to be scarier in the beginning, but far less so in the final act. He named “The Blair Witch Project” as a perfect example where “nothing happens the whole film, and then it ends with a guy standing in a corner” but it pulled audiences in by building a sense of dread, and allowing their imaginations to fill in the gaps.
- A back story was generated for the “secret society” depicted in the film. In Jordan’s mind they were descendants of the Knights Templar. Instead of gaining eternal life via the Holy Grail, they worked to use science to perfect what became Coagula. Instead of bidding money in the “BINGO scene”, he imagined they were bidding priceless artifacts they would have inherited down through the generations.
- One of the genre tropes Jordan wanted to explore, and exploit, was the “white savior trope.” Audiences are so used to having at lease one white person in the film be the “good guy”, he used that in an attempt to keep suspicion away from Rose. In an earlier draft of the script Rose attempted to talk Chris out of leaving after the family dinner scene. Jordan realized that was a dead give away that she was evil. After that she became the one challenging the police office after their accident with the deer, the one pointing out the casual racism her family displayed, and not trying to talk him out of leaving when Chris decided it was time to go.
- Casting was just as important as finding the correct tone. At first Jordan resisted hiring anyone for the role of Chris who wasn’t African-American. He felt they needed to have lived the experience in order to effectively play the character. During a Skype conversation with Daniel Kaluuya, Jordan realized Daniel “got it on a primal level.” Daniel recounted his experiences with racism, being wrongfully arrested, and being the only black guy in a space. At that point Jordan conceded this wasn’t an exclusively American phenomenon, and allowed Daniel to audition.
- In his audition Daniel performed the scene where Chris is first hypnotized by Missy Armitage. Jordan said it was so perfect he could have just recorded it, and put it right into the film.
- LilRel Howery as Rod Williams, was allowed to ad lib while filming. Jordan said LilRel still delivered the scripted dialogue but it came off better, more natural, when he told him to “do it your way.”
- While Rod was used for comic relief, and a tension release, Jordan was careful to never have him be a joke, or be jokey. He wanted Rob to be grounded, realistic, and a voice for what the audience may be thinking as events unfolded.
- An audience member questioned why an Asian man was present at the Armitage party, when everyone else was white. Jordan explained that there was no real deep meaning to that, but he did want to show that their secret society was small and localized. He also wanted to give a nod to the Asian photographer at the end of “Rosemary’s Baby.”
- The original ending had Chris killing Rose on the road during his attempted escape. Instead of Rod showing up, the police do, and Chris is arrested for murder. The movie ended with a flash forward to six months later and Chris in prison. Jordan felt he had to make a statement here as during the Obama era he didn’t think real conversations about race were taking place.
- This ending was shown at test screenings, and it wasn’t well received. Jordan decided to rework the conclusion to what it is now. He said he was still able to address what he wanted to because the audience’s initial reaction to seeing the police vehicle lights is thinking that is how the movie would end.
Jordan’s reason for making “Get Out” was that he wanted to see his favorite horror movie that didn’t exist yet. Hopefully he keeps that mindset throughout his career, because it more than served him well here. He’s certainly on my list of “must watch” writer-directors now, and a much-needed voice in the industry.
Howdy, Fright Fans! Chris here, taking up the news duties for Joe this week as we try to keep you all up to speed on what transpired in the world of horror entertainment this past week. Our next recording will be the second half of our STRANGER THINGS 2 recap, so we will be lacking in time to discuss the bulk of these items. Please check them out at your own pace. Thanks for reading us as well as the sites we pull our news from!
Guillermo del Toro’s “The Shape of Water” is a gorgeous piece of cinema, and a fairy tale for any adult who’s ever felt alone, broken, or different at any point in their life. The film, co-written by del Toro and Vanessa Taylor, is a period piece set in 1960s Baltimore and revolves around Elisa Esposito (a mute janitorial custodian, played brilliantly by Sally Hawkins) and her budding relationship with “The Asset” (an amphibious humanoid played by the continually amazing Doug Jones) being held captive in the facility where Elisa is employed. It sounds odd, and it certainly is, but it works beautifully and completely. In a way it reminded me of Spike Jonze’s 2013 film “Her”, dealing with an extremely unconventional romance.
In a post-film Q&A I attended on Saturday at the Landmark Theater (featuring del Toro, Octavia Spencer, and Doug Jones) Guillermo mentioned the movie had originally been tapped with a $60-$70 million dollar budget, but was filmed for only around $19 million. You’ll never notice it was filmed for less money, as it does look like every penny of the original budget estimate is on the screen. A large part of that is due to the production, and set design teams, and Dan Laustsen’s stunning cinematography.
photo by Joe Meyers
I believe Sally Hawkins deserves an Oscar for her performance, and in my mind I can already see the scene they’ll use as her name is announced as one of the nominees. In this role she is memorizing, and expresses so much without the use of dialogue. Equally impressive in his non-speaking role is Doug Jones, and he had the added hurdle of conveying a character from behind make-up effects. The supporting cast is phenomenal with Richard Jenkins as Elisa’s friend and next door neighbor, and Octavia Spencer as her friend and coworker. Nobody plays “unhinged” quite like Michael Shannon and he gets several moments to shine here as Richard Strickland, the man who captured “The Asset” in South America. Thankfully he transcends the two-dimensional bad guy cliche with his performance, aided by some stellar writing.
This film will stand beside “The Devil’s Backbone” and “Pan’s Labyrinth” as del Toro’s crowning achievements. Just this morning “The Shape of Water” led all other films with seven Golden Globe nominations. Several of these well deserved nominations are for the incredible acting performances mentioned above. I loved every single moment of this film, and I hope you have the same experience as “The Shape of Water” rolls out its release to a wider audience over the coming weeks.
“The Shape of Water” Poster by James Jean
The first portion of our two part recap of STRANGER THINGS 2. This chapter we cover the first five episodes of the new season. It’s totally tubular!
Episode 120 – Strangerer Things: Chapter One
In an exclusive, Deadline reports the popular podcast “Welcome to Night Vale” is being developed for a television show for FX. Gennifer Hutchison, who’s currently an Executive Producer of “Better Call Saul”, will adapt the podcast for television via Sony Pictures Television. Joseph Fink and Jeffrey Cranor, the creators of the Night Vale, will serve as executive producers on the series.
“We’ve never met anyone in the industry who understands our world and approach to storytelling better than Gennifer does,” said Fink and Cranor. “We are lucky to be working with her, as well as FX – a network with a long history of creating excellent television.”
If you’re unfamiliar with the show, there will be plenty of time to become acquainted with “Welcome to Night Vale” before the television series begins. Night Vale revolves around the quirky town of Night Vale as narrated by community radio host Cecil Gershwin Palmer, with a revolving cast of characters. You’ll quickly learn why you should stay out of the town’s dog park, why librarians should be avoided, and why being a radio station intern may be the most dangerous profession in Night Vale.
This week we’ll be recapping the first five episodes of STRANGER THINGS Season 2, so there won’t be time for any news on the next recording. However, you can get your horror news fix right here…
- In an exclusive report Variety reveals Chad Hayes and Carey Hayes, writers of “The Conjuring”, are teaming up with producer Joel Silver for an original horror film.
- The film adaption of Nickelodeon’s 1990s horror series “Are You Afraid of the Dark?” is set for an October 11, 2019 release date. Matt Kaplan is producing with “IT” co-writer Gary Dauberman on board to tackle the script.
- The Los Angeles Film Critics Association awarded Best Cinematography to Dan Laustsen for “The Shape of Water.” The film also scored Sally Hawkins a Best Actress win, and Guillermo del Toro shared the Best Director win with Luca Guadagnino for “Call Me by Your Name.” Jordan Peele was also honored with Best Screenplay for “Get Out” to once again give the horror genre a strong showing at an awards ceremony.
- Andi Matichak has been cast in David Gordon Green’s upcoming Halloween film, in a role rumored to be the granddaughter of Jamie Lee Curtis’ Laurie Strode.
- A “World War Z” game is coming in 2018 from Saber Interactive and Paramount for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC. Check out the reveal trailer below…
- Deadline is reporting André Øvredal, director of “The Autopsy of Jane Doe” and “Trollhunter” has been hired to direct “Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark” at CBS Films.
- John Squires at Bloody Disgusting informs us “Victor Crowley”, the surprise fourth installment of Adam Green’s Hatchet franchise, will be released on DVD, Blu-ray and VOD on February 6, 2018.
- Per The Hollywood Reporter CBS All Access has officially given their “The Twilight Zone” reboot a series order. The series will be produced by CBS Television Studios in association with Jordan Peele’s Monkeypaw Productions and Simon Kinberg’s Genre Films. Jordan Peele will be one of the executive producers, and will collaborate on the premiere episode.
- Netflix will release the new season of “Black Mirror” on December 29th, 2017. Check out the trailers for the six episode 4th season over at Bloody Disgusting.
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We are up to our I’s in our ABCs of Horror series! This episode we discuss and review THE INNKEEPERS (2012), I BURY THE LIVING (1958), and I AM THE PRETTY THING THAT LIVES IN THE HOUSE (2016).
Episode 119 – ABCs of Horror: I is for Insane
Here’s a quick Friday recap of the happenings in the Horror World this week:
- Netflix has announced their critically-acclaimed, crime drama series “Mindhunter” will return for a second season.
- A third season for Netflix’s “Stranger Things” has also been officially announced this morning.
- In a recent interview, with my old home town’s Charleston City Paper, Danny McBride talks about his desire to focus on a sense of dread and tension over gore and ultra-violence for the new Halloween film.
- Deadline reported Michael Green & Bryan Fuller exited the Starz series “American Gods” this week, rumored to be over a budget dispute for Season 2.
- Variety announced the FOX series “Ghosted”, starring Craig Robinson and Adam Scott, has been picked up for six additional episodes and Paul Lieberstein is joining the show as the new executive producer and showrunner.
- While speaking with TimesTalks, Guillmero del Toro revealed his only real professional regret was declining an offer from Universal to take creative control over their Monsters in what would eventually become the “Dark Universe.”
- As first revealed during AMC’s “Talking Dead” this past Sunday night, Lennie James’ character Morgan will be crossing over from “The Walking Dead” to the spin-off “Fear The Walking Dead” in Season 4 of that series.
- Lionsgate and Summit Entertainment have set January 11, 2019 as the release date for their “Hellboy” reboot. The film stars David Harbour, Milla Jovovich, Ian McShane, and Daniel Dae Kim with Neil Marshall as director.
- Per The Hollywood Reporter, Kevin Williamson of “Scream” fame has made a straight-to-series order with CBS All-Access for “Tell Me A Story.” The concept is based off a show that aired on Spanish TV network Antena tres, from Marcos Osorio Vidal, Gustavo Malajovich and Hernan Goldfrid. “Tell Me A Story” will take familiar fairy tale characters and plots and twist them into a dark psychological horror-thriller.
- In an exclusive, Dread Central reported the documentary “The Dark Heart of Jason Voorhees: The Making of the Final Friday” will give us a look at the making of Adam Marcus’ “Jason Goes To Hell” just in time for that film’s 25th anniversary.
Be sure to check out our latest episode early next week, where we’ll touch on some of these news items and more.
Hey there, Fright Fans! Chris here. Just another update on where we are with the change over from GeekPlanetOnline.com.
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